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 **Predrag 2009-12-01** ​ **Predrag 2009-12-01** ​
-I have the video, but it's some Oy-ro-peon format ​(have to remember to take it to Goettingen in May, they have a thing that can convert it to flash. YouTube'​s next, or better still, [[http://​www.dailymotion.com/​birdtracks|DailyMotion.com/​birdtracks]]). Perhaps Danish Radio has the TV archive, perhaps I have handwritten letter about it from 1988. Will check. +I have the video, but it's some Oy-ro-peon format. Will check.
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-Bagermester ​ (master baker) Iversen has a cousin who works for Danish Radio, and brings all children & pastry-baking programs his way. He gets paid in bottles of red wine, as book keeping otherwise requires things such contribution to the state vacation fund. Bagermester Iversen will die convinced that I was brought to him as a foreign worker on one of these children programs. But no, I was enlisted as his apprentice to star on Tor Nørretranders'​ wildly successful Danish Radio popular science television program "​Hvælv", ​ 1988 episode "Det kosmiske kaos"​. +
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-The point is that pastry-making is the best way to motivate the notions of hyperbolicity and chaos. While working as a visiting professor at Cornell Jan-May 1985 I developed `pruning front conjecture',​ a method of separating topologically admissible from inadmmissible orbits for dynamical systems such as the Hénon and Lozi maps. Clearest illustration is offered by slicing edges of a 2-D baker'​s map, and thus I got into the pastry business. As a Dane, I naturally called the method '​kneading Danish pastry.'​ Physical Review editor was not amused - he found 'prune danish'​ a particularly vile American motel fodder, and simply crossed out the two words whenever they appeared, rendering entire sentences subjectless,​ and [[http://​www.cns.gatech.edu/​~predrag/​papers/​preprints.html#​PrunFront|the article]] more puzzling than even the competing submissions from the Far Orient. Danish television was more liberal. +
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-So I arrived to bagermester Iversen'​s kitchen decked out in white from tip to toe, and started explaining what we were to do. We'll take two thick rectangles of dough - as a Danish nationalist and royalist to boot, I wanted one block to be white, the other red. That was OK. Then I told him that to put them on top of each other, compress them to the thickness of one, and fold this over, to the original dough shape.  +
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-Bagermester Iversen looked at me annoyed. "This is NOT how we knead wienerbrød (Danish pastry)!"​ He pushed me aside, spread the dough to 1/3 of original thickness, folded 1/3 back, and the other 1/3 at the end over that, sliced of the two ends, and folded again. Very quickly (compute number of kneadings yourself) a single layer is an Ângström thick, and the dough is pink. +
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-Thus the Smale horseshoe went out of the window. I went back to Smale'​s article, and what do you know - he kneaded exactly like bagermester Iverson. +
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-I've appeared on the morning commercial television explaining chaos by [[http://​chaosbook.org/​figs/​pinb__75.gif|playing pinball]] with no further ado, but Danish (state) Radio production people are old white-haired trade-union men. As my name is not a Jensen, they used that inimitable Danish charm that makes native Danes so beloved by the darker shades of humanity, and subtitled my performance (in Danish). As we say, what røvhuller. +
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 +**Predrag 2012-09-17**
 +Transferred all this to ChaosBook.org history appendix (not public yet)
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-**Predrag 2009-12-01** I derived "cycle expansions"​ sometimes in 1986 or earlier (?). They arose from trying to figure out the scalings in period-doubling renormalization,​ and topology of the Hénon attractor (my pruning front theory) developed at Chalmers, Gothenburg 1985-1986 and Cornell Jan-May 1985. +**Predrag 2009-12-01** I derived "cycle expansions"​ sometimes in 1986
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-I do not publish until I have worked a topic to death, but I did give lots of conference and seminar talks about cycle expansions. //Inter alia// I talked about the periodic-orbit topology of Lozi and Hénon attractors, and the cycle expansions at the  "Chaos and Related Nonlinear Phenomena: Where Do We Go From Here?",​ the Fritz Haber Symposium organized by Itamar Procaccia ​ in 1986(?) and held at a kibbutz in Israel. A great meeting, and Celso Grebogi was in the audience. My first publication on this was +
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-[[http://​www.cns.gatech.edu/​~predrag/​papers/​preprints.html#​Cycling|Invariant measurement of strange sets in terms of cycles]], Phys. Rev. Lett. 61, 2729 (1988), submitted March 1988. +
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-Celso and the Maryland colleagues had written written many articles about UPOs since, starting with  +
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-C. Grebogi, E. Ott, J. A. Yorke, Unstable periodic orbits and the dimensions +
-of multifractal chaotic attractors, //Phys Rev A// **37**, ​ 1711–1724 (1988), submitted Sept. 1987. +
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-in which they presented a formula for the natural measure in terms of the unstable periodic orbits (UPOs) with large period embedded in a chaotic attractor. +
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-For some reason it's been the habit ever since for the Maryland school to cite Maryland papers only and some of the mathematicians of the 1970'​s,​ and not Copenhagen papers.  +
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-Ott in particular is an exquisite physicist, but the Maryland approach was and remained heuristic, and there is no need for that. These heuristic formulas are approximations to the exact trace formulas (that are derived in ChaosBook with no more effort than the heuristic approximations),​ but they are not smart for computations;​ much faster convergence is obtained by using the cycle expansions of dynamical zeta functions and Fredholm determinants. The cycle expansions //are not heuristic//,​ they are exact expansion in  the unstable periodic orbits for classical dynamics, and semi-classically exact for quantum mechanics. The first paper that derives them is, I believe, the above 1988 Phys. Rev. Lett.. Some other early papers are +
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-Topological and metric properties of Hénon-type attractors (with G.H. Gunaratne and I. Procaccia), Phys. Rev. A 38, 1503 (1988) +
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-Exploring chaotic motion through periodic orbits (with D. Auerbach, J.-P. Eckmann, G. Gunaratne and I. Procaccia), Phys. Rev. Lett. 58, 2387-2389 (1987)  +
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-but the two long papers (combining the Artuso and Aurell PhD theses with my own work) were better: +
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-Recycling of strange sets: I. Cycle expansions (with R. Artuso and E. Aurell), Nonlinearity 3, 325 (1990)  +
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-Recycling of strange sets: II. Applications (with R. Artuso and E. Aurell), Nonlinearity 3, 361 (1990) +
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-The most recent in the Maryland school series is  +
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-[[http://​arxiv.org/​abs/​0912.0596|Comment on "​Time-averaged properties of unstable periodic orbits and chaotic orbits in ordinary differential equation systems"​]] +
-by Michael A. Zaks and Denis S. Goldobin. It would not hurt to recycle these kinds of computations in terms of spectral determinants,​ instead of sticking to evaluations of approximate trace formulas. There is no extra work involved, except reading relevant bits of ChaosBook, and inserting the same set of UPOs of the Lorenz equations into cycle expansions. They should converge faster - symbolic dynamics is a problem here, so perhaps one would need to use the stability cutoffs. +
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-If one is reluctant to refer to people with long, weird surnames, one can always refer to Ruelle (not Bowen, he did not do that) for deriving the dynamical (or Ruelle) zeta function. Sinai-Bowen-Ruelle work was much smarter and more profound than 95% of physicists publications from 1980s on. However, continuous time flow traces weighted by cycle periods were introduced by Bowen who treated them as Poincaré section suspensions weighted by the “time ceiling” function. But I do not see cycle expansions that we use in Bowen'​s work (see, for example, the description in Scholarpedia.org/​article/​Bowen-Margulis_measure). +
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-BTW, if you are interesting in periodic orbit theory, try reading ChaosBook.org. It's not half bad. And if you ignore this bit of history, [[http://​oldpoetry.com/​opoem/​show/​2906-Dylan-Thomas-Do-Not-Go-Gentle-Into-That-Good-Night|I will not mind at all]], but please do master the best tools available to deal with chaos, instead of just running computers. It does not really matter who did it first, as long as we all have decent working conditions to enjoy our research. I certainly have no rights to complain about that. +
  
 +**Predrag 2012-09-17**
 +Transferred all this to ChaosBook.org history appendix (not public yet).
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